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Hi Everyone.,

I have been diagnosed with CML - AP few weeks back. @ Dx my WBC count was 215000 and blast % (BM) - 12%. BCR-ABL - RT-PCR : 88%.

I am on Nilotnib 400mg BD since 2 weeks. WBC has come dow to 6600 and so do RBC and Platelets.

Few questions :

1. Is Blast % from Bone marrow - 12% considered to be CML-AP or CML - CP?

2. Is BCR-ABL/ABL % -of 88% too high?

3. Is there a corelation between WBC count and BCR-ABL%.?

Kindly help me understand

Regards

Kiran

 

Hi Kiran,

There’s no single accepted definition of accelerated phase. Sometimes one metric that’s used is the blast % - and between 10-20% may be considered AP. However most clinicians would also need to see things like anaemia, very large spleen, and very high / low blood counts to treat the CML as AP. The CML disease of course does not care for our definitions, so you need a good clinician to make the right judgements.

88% BCR-Abl is not especially high. Depending on how it’s measured, it’s possible to be at more than 100% at diagnosis. Do you know if the test that came to 88% was a FISH test or a PCR test?

Regarding a correlation between WBC and BCR-Abl I can’t give you a definitive answer on this but as CML progresses untreated both the WBC and BCR-Abl will increase so I suppose there is a correlation in many cases but I can’t tell you if there is any accepted ratio (I think not). You do see some cases where there BCR-Abl is high but the WBC isn’t really that high.

David.

Thanks David.

88% Bcr Abl is PCR test - with normilized IS standards.

Yes, my spleen was 22 cm at dx. Not sure if its considered very large.

I was on hydroxyurea for a week to bring down the wbc count under control.

I am on Nilotnib since 2 weeks. Will my wbc count stabilize. Currently it around 6600.

Regards
Kiran

1. Is Blast % from Bone marrow - 12% considered to be CML-AP or CML - CP?  10 - 19% is accelerated phase which is likely why you were started on Nilotinib.  

2. Is BCR-ABL/ABL % -of 88% too high? No, some people have had over 100%.  

3. Is there a corelation between WBC count and BCR-ABL%.?  I don't believe so as my WBC count was much higher (375k at diagnosis) and my BCR-ABL% was 66% (58% International Scale).  

 

 

Thanks Rogue.
Does 88% bcr-abl% (International scale) and cml-ap makes it hard to acheive MMR than with lesser bcr-Abl% (cml-cp).

Regards
Kiran

I was diagnosed AP/officially BP. Had 44% PCR and 96000 WBC. Put on 600mg Gleevec. All milestones met. MMR at 12 months and Undetectable at 30 months. I believe the trend is all important.