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I have a question for everyone here in the US. I am presently working, but thinking of retiring. My monthly co pay through my insurance is $35.00 per month for a 30 day supply of 70mg of Sprycel. When looking at my supplemental Medicare Plan D prescription coverage when I retire the cost goes through the roof! Looks like it goes up to about a $1,000.00 a month out of pocket just for the Sprycel. Just wondering if anyone else has retired and what are you doing for prescription ins coverage and about the cost??

 

Also... this site is the absolute best for CML info!!

 

Thanks,

Tom

Bristol Myers probably has a program like the makers of Bosulif.  Medicare assist program.  Google/search Sprycel assist card.

 

Steff

Be careful I'm not retired but I know that Gleevec and Tasigna has a copay card that covers $30k a year but you have to have health insurance and not medicaid. I had Blue Cross/Blue Shield and I paid zero $ because I was able to use the Gleevec copay card . Now I have McLaren health insurance because my wife does billing for McLaren Hospital and I can't use the copay card because the hospital has Medicare as a supplimental part of the insurance so I have to pay $50.00 a month now for my imatinib .

Hi Tom, I have been spending a lot of time recently on this topic. I go on Medicare in June. When I pay for the Spyrcel, and Part B it will be between 800-1000$ per month. When the Medicare actually goes into effect I can call Bristol Myers Sprycel assist, and see if I can qualify for any assistance. I can not find out until I am actually on Medicare. I called the Leukemia association and at this time there is no program or charity offering assistance. How will I afford it? It will eventually take all of my savings. Hopefully the government will make changes so that big Pharma can’t get away with this! Good luck, if you learn anything differently please let me know. Sorry for no better news. :( Dawn

Dawn, I'm not sure what to do. I was going to retire in June also but my cost will go from $35.00 to $1,000. I've decided to postpone my retirement until I can get more info. If I get more info I will let you know. Please let me know if you hear of anything also.

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

ThomasS at age 65 Social Security placed me on Medicare, they did not give me a choice to opt out, I had to go to the local office and withdraw/opt out  of Social Security, I continued with a private/commercial Insurance to receive Sprycel at $0.00 cost using the Sprycel Co-pay card. Every January I am required to call Bristol Myers Squibb and provide insurance information to continue with zero cost for Sprycel. I hope this helps. 

@Thomas , welcome to this USA mess.  My husband was on my insurance and his copay was $30 per month for Sprycel.

As I understand it, there are various tiers you have to go thru on Part D medicare including the doughnut hole, catastrophic, etc.

My husband has been on a drug holiday since we went on Medicare, but the insurance broker indicated it will be up to 10k per year out of pocket if he goes back on meds.  I believe there are restrictions on what kind of help manufacturers can give to those on Medicare.  I would check with Pfizer about any assistance plans for those on Medicare.  You can also run the numbers for using COBRA to stay on your commercial insurance.  It may be cheaper than paying for drugs on Medicare.  That would give you up to 3 years, depending on what state you live in.

Also contact your local LLS office.  They are working on legislation that would help those on oral chemo who are caught in this Catch 22 where oral meds fall under Part D and aren't covered nearly as well as if under medical.

Last, check with an insurance broker who specializes in Medicare.  There may be Medicare Advantage plans where you live that have much better drug coverage and s/he can give you info on all your options.

Hope it works out for you.  My husband and I are definitely enjoying retirement and feel grateful/fortunate that if we had to bite the bullet we could come up with the 10k per year, but it wouldn't be fun.  Good luck.

 

If you have the savings, you could consider retirement in another country that does have universal healthcare.  Sad that so many Americans have to opt for this option but it is happening and it happens a lot more than you'll hear about in the media.

Medicare is 4 years away for me, but I have been planning. I will go to Toronto Canada, see a doctor there and buy my meds and go home. I take generic Apotex Imatinib and it’s from there. I will do this a year before to put my plan in action and stock up 12 months worth of meds.

I have been on Medicare for 1 year now.  Below is a link to a good summary of how the prescription drug coverage works, including the whole donut hole part.  Once you get past the donut hole, which will take only 1 or 2 refills of a non-generic TKI, you get into catastrophic coverage where you pay 5% of cost of the drug for the rest of the year.  I am on 150 mg/year of Tasigna which last year had a retail price of of $3133.88 per 28 capsules (so for someone on full dose (300 mg 2x/day) the retail cost would have been $12,535.52 per every 4 weeks or $162,961.76 per year.  As you go through the various stages of the medicare drug coverage program, they track something called total out-of-pocket costs, which include what you pay and other payments made by programs or organizations such as the Medicare Gap Coverage Discount Program. After you put all of this in the meat grinder, my true out-of-pocket cost for the year for Tasigna was $4,388.24, not great, but not enough to break the bank.  Had I been on full dosage, my true out-of-pocket cost would have been $9,090.  I suspect this number is very close to what others on full dose Sprycel or non-generic Gleevec would have paid.

Once you are on Medicare, you are no longer eligible for the various manufacturer's co-pay cards, but if your financial situation warrants, there are a number of medicare assistance programs out there.  I am fortunate enough that I do not qualify for these programs, so I don't really know anything about them.  

Regardless of your financial situation, the burden of expensive medication is significant under US Medicare.  In addition to the high out-of-pocket drug costs, there are also the Medicare premiums and supplemental Medicare premiums.  All in, I pay an additional $7,500 per year in these premiums, bringing my total out-of-pocket medical expense to roughly $20,000 in 2018. 

My research shows I can save min. 50% buying in Canada. I would rather use the savings for quarterly vacations in Canada. I do not qualify for subsidies and am not ok paying more. The system stinks for those that have been economically responsible.

Tbrand,

Marks Marine Pharmacy is Canadian based (brick & mortar) and ships to you in the US.  My cancer mentor who lives here in Texas buys her gleevec there.  You can buy the canadian or India stuff.  No need to drive there.  I am sure there are folks on here that know better than I.  I am repeating second hand information.

 

Steff

I found on GoodRx several US pharmacy’s offering generic Imatinib 30 400mg pills for around 700.00. That looks positive.

shweflen (U.S. LLS forum) purchased Imatinib Mesylate 90 X 100mg under the Cigna Medicarte Drug Plan for $395.42 which would likely indicate a roughly $500 price for 30 X 400mg.   shweflen was also fortunate enough to qualify for co-pay assistance and ended up only paying $5 this time.